My good friend Jeremy was like Tom Hanks in the ‘Da Vinci Code’ these past few weeks with the new Eminem CD out, trying to point out a hidden message it contained. I was like ‘Get the fuck out of here!’ every time he tried to explain it to me, like he was talking straight ‘bull shit.’ Until I sat down with him and he went over every bit of evidence and had me buying that shit like it was a Google share at $2.
Let me introduce this theory by recapping the background between Shady and Weezy. During Em’s hiatus, which was the time Wayne was at the top of the rap game, Wayne expressed interest in doing a song with Eminem but was blown-off by the rapper who was in recluse. Rumors circulated that Em was plotting a record dedicated to diss Lil Wayne, which Eminem even acknowledged in this latest album, “I almost made a song dissing Lil Wayne.” As Em began his comeback he attributed his slights at Lil Wayne to his drug abuse, and ended up collaborating with him on ‘Forever,’ and ‘Drop the World.’
So why would he diss Lil Wayne now?
First things first, lets go over Eminem’s approach towards this album. Basically Em has created a world within this CD by making ‘hip-hop’ the coveted object he is vying for amongst the rest of the rap game. He makes it obvious in the song ’25 to Life’ about the setbacks that come with being a famous rapper. The other not so obvious metaphorical representations of ‘hip-hop’ being the object of affection is ‘Seduction’ what seems to be referring to his ‘mack’ and how he can take your girl in an instant, but that girl is actually rap, just like it was in ’25 to Life. The lyric to kick the song off “I feel like I’m morphing, into to something so incredible that I’m dwarfing all competitors” is one to consider, but another one that is the convincer “There’s a 7-disc CD changer in her car, and I’m in every single slot and your not.”
For all of those people that still think he’s stuck on Kim, he only refers to her once. The songs ‘Space Bound,’ and ‘Love the Way You Lie’ are about the connection Em has with ‘hip-hop,’ not his ex-wife.
This world that Em sharpens up with his mind-blowing imagery is the key element in the CD to tie everything together. Notice there are re-occurring figures throughout the album, from celebrities like Michael J. Fox, and Elton John, to the multiple references towards fruits, and animals, to the biblical references, the seasons like winter and fall, holidays like Halloween and Christmas, superheroes, the need to refer to every bit of currency, motor-vehicles, and every component of time from, second, minute, day, year, light-year. Basically all of the components that would make up any sort of society. And if you think it is a coincidence let me reiterate the redundancy of the usage of these terms, each term occurs more than once, sometimes a lot more than once.
The two prominent figures in this world, which could be described, as the ‘Land of Hip-Hop,’ which Eminem has created in the CD, is he, and Lil Wayne.
Now pay attention.
The smoking gun in all of this is Lil Wayne’s verse in ‘No Love.’ Everything Lil Wayne said in that verse was used by Shady and taken from its simple layers that Wayne fashioned them with, to more extensive complex expressions Eminem used them with, almost as if to say ‘Anything you can do, I can do better.’
Exhibit A: Wayne starts out the verse, “Throw dirt on me, and grow a wildflower, but it’s FUCK THE WORLD, get a child out her.” Eminem in ‘Not Afraid’ says “Forget the EARTH HE”S GOT THE URGE TO PULL HIS DICK FROM THE DIRT, AND FUCK THE WHOLE UNVIVERSE.” Also, Wayne says he’s “Married to the Game” in ‘No Love,’ and Em says the same thing in ‘Not Afraid.’
Coincidence? Maybe, that’s what I thought to, but lets continue.
Some circumstantial evidence is that a lot of the words Wayne used in that verse like ‘bar,’ ‘back,’ ‘bleed,’ and ‘fire,’ are used continuously by Eminem but multiple times in one sequence, “I’m so tired of this I could blow, fire in the hole, I’m fired up so fire up the lighter and the dro.”
Another example of the beefier evidence is “Bitches try to kick me while I’m down I’ll break your leg (Wayne’s line)” In ‘Cinderella Man” Eminem says, “It’s a rap, I was down, when I was down I was kicked-I got up, I’m ‘bout to punch ya to the ground, YA TRICKED, IT’S A TRAP.” Then Wayne says “You want me up in the cage, then I’ll come out in beast mode” in the same song Em says “Caution to the wind, COMPLETE FREEDOM, look at this rappers, how I treat them, so why the fuck would I join’em when I beat’em.” Then Em goes on in the same song saying “When I rip this stage and tear it in half tonight.”
Another bit of evidence is, in the ‘Forever’ track Wayne says “Let the KING talk, check the price and pay attention” Eminem in ‘Not Afraid’ says “You said you was KING you lied through your TEETH, so for that fuck your FILLINGS instead of getting crowned your getting capped.” It is worth noting Lil Wayne needed eight root canals before entering jail.
And here is the ‘out of the ball park,’ kill-shot, “Lil Wayne slurps syrup ‘till he burps and smokes purp does a WORDSEARCH gets circles (W)RAPPED AROUND it like you do when I come through just to remind yourself what the fuck I can do.” Is a Shady line in the song ‘Won’t Back Down.’
If you pay attention to the CD you will notice a lot of lines that could tie in with this whole argument. To dismiss them as coincidental is foolish, because without even acknowledging this theory, you have to acknowledge Em’s meticulous approach with his wordplay throughout the album.
So why would these subliminal lines serve no purpose with someone as attentive, crafty, clever, and deliberate as Eminem?
-Just want to reiterate my good friend Jeremy came up with this theory; I’m just basically the messenger right now.
He was bringing up an opinion. I understand that some people don’t agree and have legitimate rebuttals, but if you don’t like it you can leave. Don’t fuckin bitch
Not to be the “person who points out flaws” but, light years are actually a unit of measurement, not time. And, I know the article is about a hidden subliminal message at Lil’ Wayne. Not wether or not the references are factual. So I leave you this comment with a disclaimer so you internet trolls won’t attack my comment.
it may or may not be all a coincidence.. i no eminem told weezy to keep his head up in jail i have watch interviews with both of them saying they contact eachother while he was in jail and all that
eminem may be wrting on wayne but wayne knows it if it is true and im bet they even sat down at the studio and prepared to go against eachother…it does seem like wayne is a little confused in his interview which is why he mad the song right above it with drake they probly bought into the hype of Em’s messages and said if u ant with us then fuck you..
he isnt not secretly shittin on him, but rappers just battle eachother that way to see who is better..50 and the game did it many people have they rap with them to see how they really are and if they really have a problem you find out later but for now i believe they are good with eachother
watch this shit…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1FluFbn8ng
thats where weezy sounded confused
one wholle conspiracy video with lines…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTXGrBuyLkE
and eminem interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIvqKmd6KFo
after right above it eminem got into contact with wayne reguarly
idk if this whole consperacy is true or not but it’s effen brilliant! He has said in several different songs that he uses subliminal messaging, in the song WE MADE YOU he dresses like Bret Michaels. he never mentions Michaels’ name but that is the Sbliminal part isn’t it? If the whole behind your back dissing (expecially the ones in the same song with lil wayne) it foreal i am inpressed, he is a genius!!
this shit is real. Think about it. “they call me fire marshal, i shut the shit down” “Aint nobody whos as good at what i do” SEDUCTION IS A DIRECT CONTACT ON LIL WAYNE ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE PUT THAT DUMB RETARD IN HIS PLACE HE SUCKS AT RAP
Thumbs up big homie, Ive been saying em dissed wayne for so long but jeremy actually had some factual statements to back it up thats whats up,
” Almost made a song dissing lil wayne ”
” all those who look down on me im tearin down ya balcony ” lil wayne specifically said he was tryin to record wit em but he thinks em was afraid to be outstaged, I think not afraid is 100% about wayne from beginning to end
You really think Em would waste a whole disc on waynes ass? He’s not even worth dissing, maybe a bar or 2 from Em. Em is speaking directly on the “industry”, period. I’ll only give one example now, I’m busy. You said he was talking about wayne on “not afraid” by saying, “Caution to the wind, COMPLETE FREEDOM, look at this rappers, how I treat them, so why the fuck would I join’em when I beat’em.” Em is referring to their control and manipulation, creating puppets of rappers. What he means is “be careful industry, I’m taking my freedom back on MY music and telling them other artists listen because they must, in order to succeed but I won’t do that. Why would I do that when I’m the best? I don’t need “the industry” they’re not as good as me!” Stop spreading pointless propaganda, the issues are deeper than you’re comprehending.
On seduction it sounds like Em is rappin about hip hop being a female and taking it back. Then on the second verse he mocks Jay’z verse on DOA with the ahh.
Jay on a star is born raps about em, callin him a white boy (like his race is the reason he is famous).
Em raps I sport that white tank boy…
Jay-Z
but what Em did was silly,
the WHITE BOY blossomed after Dre endorsed him,
his flow on Renegade, fucking awesome,
Applaud him,
Eminem
So quit crying that I took your DAME, homie she’s my DAME, aww
You sadly mistaken if you thinkin’ that I’m not on my game boy
And things just ain’t been the same since the day that I came for it
You wear your heart on your sleeve, I sport that WHITE tank BOY
But you got a hard on for me, what you hollerin’ my name for?
(Credit to The Roc/Shady on Y!A)
also why would he diss while he was recording 3 songs with him. Now I know you can say how he recorded with Kanye West and diss him
Forever:
They been waiting patiently for Pinocchio to poke his nose
No Love:
Where the fuck is Kanye when ya need him. Snatch the mic from them bitch Imma let you finish in a minute
But he actually had Lil Wayne record a song on an album with him which he has not done with Kanye.
I’m not sure the trying to one up Lil Wayne is a really good argument.
There are also several rappers that say the rap game is there wife. Jay-Z is one that is on the top of my mind. Which I’m positive if Seduction is a hit on anyone it’s Jay-Z.
About the only really solid argument is the verse in Won’t Back Down. But if you think about it what does that even mean? That he has a drug addiction? I wouldn’t necessarily call it a hit. Lil Wayne may have even told him to put it in there when he was recording his album. I mean Weezy ain’t shy about doing drugs maybe it’s a reference like that and Lil Wayne thought I’d be funny.
I’m just not really sure that’s the message in this album. Also if there is a message in this album, there is a possibility they are just trying to keep competition fresh. Rappers do this sometimes if you look at it. They’ll have little hits at each other not meaning anything personal just keeping the rap game interesting. After all if they are going to call it a game might as well use it as one.
So whether there they’re disses or not doesn’t make me wonder. What does is make me wonder is if they are disses if he means it personally or if he’s just trying to keep it interesting, Weezy could have even helped him if that is the case for all we know.
I have known this be4 these songs came out. I said that em and wayne will beef.BC wayne said in many songs “best rapper alive”. witch hes clearly not. but then ppl said i was crazy bc they did a song together ad i said em diss wayne in every song they do together. ad the whole hip hop= marriage e-wife so many ppl dnt understand that. i have for years. so Jeremy ur not the only 1
wayne’s verse was ghostwritten by the same person who did ghostwriting on “not afraid”
Thisistrue, i hope you die. Lil Wayne is just as much as a lyrical genius as Eminem. Just because you can’t accept him being different, you can go shove a shovel up yuh arse, fool. “I’m great with no effort, boy, your face will get severed boy.” (this is about thisistrue. so. FUCK YOU.) Weezy F baby and the F is for FOREVER boyyy… <3
divinci code might be a bit of a stretch. i thought it was pretty clear through out the whole album that where he could, em would take shots at lil weezy f baby. what like the third song in hes just talking shit, hes living a sober life and says something like, lil wayne sips syrup, smokes purp- gets circles rapped around him.. no love it just straight up, and playing with little waynes go to subject about being married to the rap game, seduction, while i guess sortof subliminal, once you draw that connection plays out pretty clearly, and smoothly cause it follows no love on the album.. he also raps condesendingly to the fireman f is for fireman or what ever the fuck that guy said on that drop the world song thing does… check a win up for fire marshall, he shits the shit down, waynes entire arsenal is not enough to fuck with one round..
guess one other thing. i wrote something like it played through well with seduction as an analogy with lil weezy for sheezy wife the rap game liking eminem more because it followed no love. no love is straight up, because, some time wayne did an interview strung out with his cough syrup addiction said maybe eminem was scared to do a song with him, all the while em was struggling with his drug addiction and depression after loosing his best friend, when, you dont have much of a family, would send alot of people off their rocker, cool? also, what the hells things excuse for a drug problem anyways, cause you were signed to a rap deal at a young age and made to kiss his dad? (i saw it on one o six n park… well not saw it cause im pretty sure it wouldve been classified pedofelia but everything before and after) cause buddy still does that shit…. weird
and if you are going to get a drug problem, i mean youre famous… cough syrup?? blast lines while you mix jd with uppers n downers like an adult
“married to the game, but she broke her vowes” -wayne “its your bitch on my dick aint my damn fault” -em
OK LISTEN UP
FIRST yall know what a subliminal hit is? good now try to keep up.
Eminem DID diss them both AND drake and Gucci.
it started when Wayne said that eminem was scared to work with him in an interveiw and he was calling eminem out.
this is all in order of what was said and sung from beggining to now
PROOF:
take Drakes song forever, listen to the beats of everyones tracks, Drake= slower the a slug, Kayne= sloooww, Wayne= little faster but still hecka slow, and Eminem? dude thats 250 words in about 50 seconds. Em says on that track ‘ he can make them(wayne kayne and drake)look like bozos, hes wondering if he should sppit this slow(like they did)F**K NO’
then you have Eminems song seduction its about a mans wife cheating on him with Eminem cuz hes a better raper : you’re f–king corny, you try to turn your charm on
Cause you just think you’re Bishop the don Juan. how do we know this is about weezy? you know how wayne always talking bout the game(rap) beiung his wife? “Married to the game but she broke her vows”-drake forever, then back to seduction : She’s on my d**k cause I spit better than you. hes telling wayne that the game loves him more then Wayne cuz he spits(raps)better then him.
and another seduction hit: There’s a seven disc, CD changer in her car And I’m in every single slot, and you’re not, awww. now this was at wayne BECAUSE em makes it very clear who hes talking bout with this “They call me fire Marshall, I shut the s**t down” and ladies and gents, who calls himself a fireman? wayne.”im the fire man f-f-f fire man’ coincedence? i think not.
next, still on seduction is “you wear your hearrt on your sleeve”, only one rapper has ever said that they wear their heart on their sleeve. guess who? “excuse my french emotion and passion but i wear my heart on my sleeve like its the new fashion” there are far too many coincedences in ONE SONG for it to not be a SUBLIMINAL DISS.
ok now why is eminem dissing wayne? because in an interveiw wayne said em was scared to work with him and he was calling em out. this was when em was going through some hard times with drugs and his best friend had just died.
“but you gotta holla out for me, what you hollering my name for?”- cant remember title of song but its another.
THEN we got ems song not afraid. confused where the diss is? lemme help you out “you called yourself KING you lied through your TEETH for that F**k your FILLINGS instead of getting ground your getting CAPPED” — in waynes song exquiset he says “imma king you should kiss my pinky ring, b***h imma king”- i know T.I, The Game and others call themselfs king but there versus dont fit in context, i.e who got capped(went to jail)and had to have their FILLINGS removed? yes you got it right. wayne.
sooo why is eminem making songs with wayne and still dissing him at the same time?
take WAYNES OWN SONG NO LOVE
“look at these rappers how i treat em so why the f**k would i join em when i beat em?” he then answers “they call me a freak cuz i like to spit on these P*****s ‘fore i eat em” now your really confused right? spitting on someone is disrespectful and in rap terms eating someone means beating them, and P*****s is just a mean word to call someone. like B***h. he didnt just want to write a diss about wayne he wanted to toattly disrespect him, and what better way then to do it on WAYNESA OWN SONG. yeah eminems a genius. i know.
he also showed drake disrespect by rapping on his beat in his song despicable “pull your verse out this beat then stomp on it” the beat he stole was from drakes “over” song
now back to em dissing wayne.
in no love eminem says “Snatch the mic from em, bitch Imma let you finish in a minute Yeah that rap was tight
But I’m ’bout to spit the greatest verse of all time
So ya might want to go back to the lab tonight and um
Scribble out them rhymes you were going to spit
And start over from scratch and write new ones
But I’m afraid that it ain’t gonna make no difference
When I rip the stage and tear it in half tonight”
now remember when wayne disrespected eminem when he was going through the hard times? in the same song “its a little too late to say that your sorry now you kicked me while i was down but what you say just dont hurt me”. its obvious dude.
however theres no subliminal hit in thiss one………….
” i almost made a song dissin Lil Wayne It’s like I was jealous of him cause the attention he was gettin’ I felt horrible about myself He was spittin and I wasn’t Anyone who was buzzin back then coulda got it Almost went at Kanye too God it feels like I’m goin’ psychotic Thank god that I didn’t do it I had my ass handed to me”
…………..
“i ALMOST made a song dissing lil wayne… thank God i dint do it i wouldve gotten my A*S handed to me”……………………………………..
WHY THE H**L would he tell us he ALMOST dissed him? and EMINEM get his a*s handed to him? B***H please.
this was oh so very clearly…..
SARCASAM.
now lastly(thank goodness my hand is cramping), in the forever song wayne says “im resting in the lead i need a pillow and a cover” saying hes the best rapper alive basically.
in the drop the world song eminem comes back at wayne with this ” Sleep on me, that pillow is where your headll lie
Permanently, bitch, its beddy-bye This world is my Easter egg, yeah! prepare to die”
get it? i need a PILLOW and a cover. that PILLOW is whhere your headll lie.
ok im done now. i know im a genius for figuring out all the hidden play on play words. no need to thank me.
oh i forgot about gucci.
ok so in the remix of mariah careys obsessed gucci calls eminem pinochio. so em comes back at him(pretty much everywhere but most obviously..) in drakes forever with
“theyve been waiting pateintly for pinochio to poke his nose back into the game and they know rap will never be the same as before.”
too damn many coincidences…
The Song Not Afraid Is Not About Weezy. Its About Em Standing up against “The Game” Aka The Music Industry Thay Is Controlled By The Illuminati. There Is To Much Proof To Even Try To Deny This. On The Cover Where He Is In A Glass Box. It Represents him getting away from the controll of the industry, aka the big black building behind him. the building represents the all seeing all knowing music indusrty.
look it up
the illuminati set up 2pac, Micheal jackson, Jay-Z, DMX, The Game. And Even Wayne.
Just Watch, Becuz Eminem Got Out Of Their Control, They Are Going To Try And Destroy His image, Dont Let Them. Eminem And Wanye Are True To Themselves Not The Music.
well i hope you die bitch!! you sound like a dumbass trying to talk shit about two men who many people look up to. fukkin cocksuckerr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
em does take a bunch of shots at jayz in seduction..subliminal also not sumthin every1 wuld pick up..
your right he dose diss Jay in one song he remixed Js beat in one song and says “this is the DOHi” idk what that means but it means somethin
, even if they did have beef EVERYONE knows Eminem will SMASH on Lil Wayne !
You said about ‘love the way you lie’ being about ems marriage to hip hop etc it isn’t… Its a diss aimed at chris brown for battering rihanna (if you listen to the song it mentions time and time again bout hitting…
Em won’t smash lil wayne he hot and his lyrics are tighter and even if eminem is dissing lil wayne he could have his whole record labels young money and cash money right a dis about him so that comment was dead
#lil Wayne and Drake best rappers alive:)
Slaughter house > young money
aftermath > cash money
Still think they’d write a diss track to dismiss one line?
Eminent could take all of ymcm by himself
wow. that makes so much sense. but why would eminem go against lil wayne even tho he makes top songs with him? smh
Eminems music has much deeper meaning than this, trust me. The actual specifics of his subliminal messaging are fartoodetailed to go into on here , but I urge you to keep looking deeper into subliminal messaging not just with em but with other musicians and movies . My majn point is not everthing they are talking about it so simple sometimes evem sulernatural. Listen to” my darling” by eminem , not refering to hip hop something much more interesting. Once again just trust ME
He wasnt dissing Lil Wayne….he was DISRESPECTING Lil Wayne
Great album
I dont think Em would make a whole cd dissing Lil Wayne but i do think Em has been taking shots at all of the fake MC’s in the game. Seduction is a shot at all of the rappers who are garbage nowadays, so is Syllables, and theres more songs like Writers Block by Roce da 59 but Em comes on and says we the best money or effective money hard to tell. i wish Em did diss Wayne because Wayne has turned into a sell out, he was good during and before the Carter III, now he sucks dick
this shit is crazy. i would have never noticed all this. its crazy that he used a whole album towards that though. theres got to be more to this. but honestly, there both good. wayne has his good hits just like everyone else. em has ripped the last couple though. and for ya’ll to be able to point all that out, to much time on your hands..lol. no offense.
If anyone really thinks lil wayne can take down Eminem is a complete idiot and i will be happy to tell you in your face. With that being said i truly do think Ems dissing wayne. Hes doing it subliminally, hes a genius. EMINEM FOR LIFE
here r some other hidden dissed:
Song : No Love
Artists : Lil’ Wayne featuring Eminem
“They say the competition is stiff, but I get a hard dick from this
shit, now I stick it in”
“Look at these rappers, how I treat them, so why the fuck would I join
them when I beat them?”
“Snatch the mic from ‘em, bitch, I’mma let you finish in a minute,
yeah, the rap was tight
But I’m ’bout to spit the greatest verse of all time so you might want
to go back to the lab tonight and, um
Scribble out them rhymes you were going to spit and start over from
scratch and write new ones
But I’m afraid that it ain’t gonna make no difference when I rip this
stage and tear it in half tonight”
Do u not see its the old sayin”all publicity is good publicity” we dont kno whats goin on em likes that yeah he ripped him but were all talkin bout lil Wayne and Wayne would hav to be mentally ill not to be aware of the concepts goals and what the game is all about
Em would would kill Wezzy at any given time of the day, raps about money and nothing else. I’d bet a million bucks, Wezzy is the self-proclaimed best rapper alive, fck that, we all know that Em can rip any opponent out. Wezzy you just a lil Boy seeking attention.
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eminem actually disses the shit out of wayne in the last verse of “wont back down”
Bitch am I the reason that your boyfriend stopped rapping
does a bird chirp,
(clearly aimed at birdman calling birdman waynes boyfriend)
Lil Wayne slurps syrup til he burps
and smokes purp does a wordsearch gets circles wrapped around him like
you do when I come through, I’d like you to remind yourself
of what the fuck I can do when I’m on the mic
or your the kind of girl that I can take a liking to
psych
(calling wayne a girl he can take a liking to PSYCH)
I’m spiking you like a football
been this way since I’ve stood a foot tall
you’re a good catch with a shitty spouse
got a pretty mouth and a good jaw
gimme good brain
watch the wood grain, don’t want no cum stain
bitch you listening tryna’ turn me down
slut I’m talking to you,
(em is trying to make the point that he is talking to wayne)
turn me back up
are you insane tryna talk over me in the chorus
shut the fuck up while my shits playin’
(telling wayne to shut the fuck up cos he is always talking over em in thier collabs)
I’ma shit stain on the underwear of life
what’s the saying? where’s thunder there’s lightning
and they say that it never strikes twice in the same place
then how the fuck have I been hit six times
in three different locations
on four separate occasions?
(pointing out how he has dissed wayne multiple times in his tracks)
and you can bet your stanking ass
that I’ve come to smash everything in my path
fork was in the road took the psychopath
poison ivy wouldn’t have me thinking rash
(the fork in the road is to either diss wayne like em has done to many people b4 or leave it be
instead he took a new direction get wayne on tracks with him and and diss him on those tracks
so hit the dance floor cutie while I do my duty on this microphone
shake your booty shawty I’m the shit
why you think Proof used to call me Doody
(again just calling wayne a bitch basically)
its all there if you listen to all ems tracks and pay attention there’s no doubt about it hes dissing wayne
if you cant see it your stupid haha
This is clever, but not real!!
How could Eminem steal Wayne’s lyrics from ‘no love’ to put on his track ‘not afraid’ when not afraid was written before no love? L.O.L, think about it.
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